Gor versus earth - Part 30

  • Tal dear reader,

    In this 30th scroll of "Gor versus earth", I gonna talk about homosexuality.

    A homosexual person is romantically or sexually attracted to people of their own gender. Men who are romantically or sexually attracted to other men are called gay. Women attracted to other women are called lesbians.

    At different times and in different cultures, homosexual behavior has been variously approved of, tolerated, punished, and banned. Homosexuality was not uncommon in ancient Greece and Rome, and the relationships between adult and adolescent males, in particular, have become the chief focus of Western classicists in recent years. Judeo-Christian, as well as Muslim cultures, have generally perceived homosexual behavior as sinful.

    References to homosexuality are rare within the Gorean series. The primary references are in Savages of Gor, Blood Brothers of Gor and Magicians of Gor. In the two Red Savage novels, the major reference is to the society of the Sames where homosexual relationships sometimes occur.

    “There is very little male-to-male sex on Gor, though it is not nonexistent. Its relative scarcity, presumably, is a function not of repression, which does not exist, but of neglect or disinterest, a function of the nature, and naturalness, of the Gorean milieu, the innocent, unabashed complexion and constitution of its culture, its sensual and biological openness, frankness and artlessness, the absence of pathological conditioning programs designed, by means of guilt and social pressures, to confuse, divide and alienate the sexes, and the abundance and availability of beautiful, needful slave girls, who are usually, for the most part, affordable.”

    Blood Brothers of Gor, pages 450-51

    In Magicians of Gor, John Norman goes straight to the actual exposure of a gay Master (Apponius) and his handsome male slave, Milo.

    “Milo must have exhibited some interest in you, or seemed to exhibit some interest in you,” I said, “if only during the period of your seduction, when you were being trapped.”
    “Yes,” she said, “then.”
    “But after you were in the house as a slave, collared, scantily clad, utterly vulnerable?”
    “No, Master,” she said.
    “He never asked for you to be brought to him?”
    “No, Master.”
    “Why do you think that is?” I asked.
    “I am insufficiently beautiful,” she said.
    “Did he call for other women?” I asked.
    “I do not know, Master,” she said.
    “Did you not see names written on the call boards in the kitchen?”
    “No,” she said.
    “Interesting,” I said.
    “One of the girls, another one of we three who had been trapped by Milo, claimed to have been with him, but it was proven that she had lied. She had been chained in the stable that night. The housemaster found out about it and she was whipped, before us all.”
    “As far as you know, then,” I said, “none of the girls of the house were put with Milo.”
    “As far as I know, not,” she said.
    “But surely there would be no cause for secrecy about such a matter,” I said.
    “I would not think so,” she said.
    “Milo was important in the house,” I said. “He is famous. He is of great value to Appanius.”
    “Certainly, Master,” she said.
    “It would make sense then,” I said, “to suppose that a girl would be sent to him, at least once in a while.”
    “Perhaps, Master,” she said.
    “So much is done even for quarry slaves,” I said.
    “Yes, Master,” she said.
    “But as far as you know this was never done?”
    “Not as far as I know,” she said.
    “And if it had been done,” I said, “it is my speculation that you would have heard of it, such gossip flowing quickly through the corridors of such a house.”
    “I suppose so,” she said.
    “If Milo had requested a girl, do you think he would have received one?”
    “I would suppose so,” she said, puzzled.
    “Perhaps he did not request one,” I said.
    “Master?” she asked.
    “Possible Milo does not find women attractive,” I said.

    Magicians of Gor, pages 313-314.

    “My Milo, my Milo!” wept Appanius, looking down at the much-beaten slave. “The most beautiful slave in Ar! My beloved slave! My beloved Milo!”

    Magicians of Gor, page 426

    Among the Kailiauk Band is the Waniyanpi, white slaves which are kept locked in tiny agricultural communities. These slaves refer to themselves as the Sames, based upon the "Teaching" that all people are the same, whether they are male or female, most likely due to the mannerisms of the males.

    "The Sames," she said, "disapprove of all sexual relations between human beings, and particularly between those of different sexes, as being demeaning and dangerous."
    "I can see where some might regard sexual relations between partners of opposite sexes as being demeaning for the woman," I said, "for in such relations she is often handled, owned and put in her place, but, on the other hand, if she belongs in her place, and it is her natural destiny to be owned and handled, it is not clear, ultimately, how this sort of thing can be demeaning for her. Rather, it seems it would be fully appropriate. Indeed, treating her in any other way, ultimately, would seem to be far more demeaning. But how can such relations be regarded as dangerous?"
    "They are not regarded as being dangerous to health," she said, "but as being dangerous to the Teaching."
    "What is the Teaching?" I asked.
    "That men and women are the same," she said. "That is the central tenet of the Waniyanpi."

    Savages of Gor, pages 234-235.

    "Among the many oddities is their aversion to heterosexual sex. They breed publicly, though anonymously, monitored by their owners at specified times. Homosexuality is tolerated."
    Savages of Gor, page 272

    Homosexuality did exist and was practiced in Gor. John Norman says nothing here though concerning the general feelings of Goreans toward homosexuality. Nothing indicates that it is a crime on Gor and nothing indicates that it is actively suppressed. The books are essentially silent on the common view of the Gorean towards homosexuality. How does all of this correlate with Norman’s belief that homosexual feelings have some basis in nature?

    We must accept that Norman does believe such inclinations have a basis in nature. But, Norman does continue to explain his feelings on the matter, placing it in a certain perspective.

    “Indulging these inclinations, of course, is quite a different matter, one likely to lead to frustration and incompleteness. It is no accident that there are two sexes, which have been, by sexual selection, designing one another for hundreds of generations for the mutual pleasure of the other.”

    Imaginative sex, page 230

    Thus, Norman indicates that though the feelings may exist, though they are natural inclinations, it is often better not to act on those feelings.

    “Men and women are for one another; anything else is second best.”

    Imaginative sex, page 231

    Thus, Norman sees homosexual relationships as less than optimal and plagued with potential problems. He is not adamantly opposed to such relationships but simply feels that a male/female relationship is better, more fulfilling. This would correlate to Gor as well, that though such feelings may exist, they are not considered the best way to fulfill oneself.

    I wish you well,

    Yahto

     

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  • Elton Robb
    Elton Robb Homosexuals often have subconscious recollections of being female at least once. Perhaps John Norman felt that the heterosexual relationship is more fulfilling.
    December 2, 2019